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we have representatives of the brady campaign and a board member of the nra. people who have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common ground and not just look at guns but also mental health issues and where that is in the equation and school safety issues. it's going to be an interesting discussion tonight, wolf. >> i'm really looking forward to it. i hope you find common ground. this is a critically, critically important issue for our entire country. anderson's town hall tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern, only here on cnn. >>> up next, a catastrophic flooding taking an enormous economic toll on australia and they have an impact felt around the world. ake someone happy.♪ ♪it's so important to make someone
we have representatives of the brady campaign and a board member of the nra. people who have been affected by gun violence, people have used guns to protect themselves and their families. we wanted this to try to be a discussion and get a lot of different view points in and see if there are any common grounds between those who are great advocates for more gun control and advocates for gun rights opposed to greater gun control or greater background check. so we wanted to try to look for common...
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he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you have one force that doesn't want to do anything. you have i think one force on the other side that wants to do a lot. and then the middle is what is that compromise? what is that reasonable thing that can pass? that's where it gets really difficult. >> absolutely. and we know the emotions involved and we have watched hearings, for example, in connecticut with the family members of children who were killed and spouses who were killed and the newtown massacre. you know, you have the president talking about chicago and today rahm emanuel, the mayor of chica
he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you...
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wayne lapierre, the nra's vice president, also spoke, saying the government should not dictate what people can lawfully own. >>> police in arizona are searching for the gunman who shot up an office building and killed one person. police say the 70-year-old suspect got into an argument with some people in that phoenix building when he pulled out the gun and started shooting. two other people were also critically hurt. >>> a top-ranking democratic senator is being questioned about trips he took to the dominican republic. this week, federal agents removed dozens of boxes from the office of a prominent florida eye doctor whose trip with senator robert menendez prompted an ethics complaint. a spokesperson for senator menendez says the senator recently wrote a $58,000 check for two flights to the company owned by that doctor, after questions arose about the trip. >>> a squatter who took up residence inside a multi-million dollar florida mansion must now get out. the eviction papers were served on wednesday, because the 23-year-old man, who called this $2.5 million mansion home for about a month.
wayne lapierre, the nra's vice president, also spoke, saying the government should not dictate what people can lawfully own. >>> police in arizona are searching for the gunman who shot up an office building and killed one person. police say the 70-year-old suspect got into an argument with some people in that phoenix building when he pulled out the gun and started shooting. two other people were also critically hurt. >>> a top-ranking democratic senator is being questioned...
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republicans have benefited from at least $700,000 in various forms from the nra the nra's pac or -- >> i'm sure a coincidence. >> stephanie: yeah. don in oklahoma welcome. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hi, go ahead. >> caller: i just wanted to say first of all that i am 100% supportive of background checks for everybody buying guns. i do have some concerns -- i'm a psychologist, and these mental health reporting laws. i'm not sure what people are talking about reporting, but what we know from the statistics people with serious mental disorders are much more likely to be victimized as opposed to being perpetrators. >> stephanie: senator franken made that point yesterday. he said not all mentally ill people obviously the vast majority is not violent. >> caller: i think it's much easier and much cheaper just to put it on the backs of mental health practitioners to do this reporting. we already have to report if we think somebody is a danger to themselves and others but we also don't want to discourage people from actually seeking treatment. >> stephanie: i hear you. and don i encourage
republicans have benefited from at least $700,000 in various forms from the nra the nra's pac or -- >> i'm sure a coincidence. >> stephanie: yeah. don in oklahoma welcome. >> caller: hello. >> stephanie: hi, go ahead. >> caller: i just wanted to say first of all that i am 100% supportive of background checks for everybody buying guns. i do have some concerns -- i'm a psychologist, and these mental health reporting laws. i'm not sure what people are talking about...
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there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has a long and proud history of doing exactly that. our child safety program has taught 25 million young children that if they see a gun, they should do four things. stop, don't touch, the area, call an adult. as a result of this and other private-sector programs, fatal firearms accidents are at the lowest level in 100 years. the nra has over 80,000 certified instructors to teach our military personnel, law enforcement officers, and hundreds of thousands of other american men and women how to safely use firearms. we do more and spend more than anyone else
there are 4.5 million active members of the nra. they are joined by tens of millions of supporters throughout the country. it is on behalf of those millions of decent, hard- working, law-abiding citizens that i am here today to give voice to their concerns. the title of today's hearing is "what should america do about gun violence?" we believe the answer is to be honest about what works and honest about what does not work. teaching safe and responsible gun ownership works. the nra has...
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. >> reporter: the nra said adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens not criminals. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform. that's president obama's hope. he laid out his platform with our sister spanish network jose diaz mullar from telemundo. >> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawfully hire undocumented workers. we know what the pathway to citizenship looks like and what the criteria should be. so, really the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. i'd like to see it get done in the first half of the year, if possible. >>> hope remains for the search of a missing air force pilot off the coast of italy today. captain lucas guntner and his f-16 disappeared three days ago during a nighttime mission. his wife describes him as a self-reliant outdoorsman. and if anybody could survive something like this, she says, lucas cold. fog hampered the u.s. and italian rescue efforts but the family remains hopeful because among the debris found so far the
. >> reporter: the nra said adding new laws would hit ordinary citizens not criminals. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell. >>> this is the year for immigration reform. that's president obama's hope. he laid out his platform with our sister spanish network jose diaz mullar from telemundo. >> we know what's needed when it comes to border security. we know what's needed when it comes to dealing with employers who may unlawfully hire undocumented workers. we know what the pathway...
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the nra told us it is opposed to any registry of law-abiding gun owners. so workers here are left with an antiquated system to trace 350,000 guns a year, require them to review by hand tons of paper records and 500 million entries on microfilm. they say it's the law enforcement equivalent of the horse and buggy. the investigators spend much of their time on the phones. >> we actually have to contact the chain -- all the dealers in the chain of distribution. >> reporter: more than a third of the traces involve a gun store that's gone out of business. those records are sent to the tracing center which receives more than a thousand boxes a month. many of the records are barely legible. >> so, for example, these are records that we received as a result of hurricane katrina. we had to dry these out in the parking lot. >> reporter: you dried these out in the parking lot. >> yes, sir, we did. >> reporter: despite the burdensome process, gun traces that are marked urgent are usually completed within 24 hours, but reteen traces ainge about five days. the atf's work
the nra told us it is opposed to any registry of law-abiding gun owners. so workers here are left with an antiquated system to trace 350,000 guns a year, require them to review by hand tons of paper records and 500 million entries on microfilm. they say it's the law enforcement equivalent of the horse and buggy. the investigators spend much of their time on the phones. >> we actually have to contact the chain -- all the dealers in the chain of distribution. >> reporter: more than a...
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wayne lapierre, the head of the nra, says the federal government is not enforcing its existing gun laws effectively and the answer is not more gun laws. >> none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a back grounding check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. i think it's basic. >> reporter: but can the president push a far-reaching law to tackle gun violence through congress? >> is he biting off more than he can chew? >> this is a president with a 60% approval rating right now. he is in his last term as president. this is the time to strike while the iron is hot. he's as popular as he may ever be. if he's going to go try to sell his agenda, now is the time to do it. >> reporter: president obama said in a univision interview yesterday that congress will pass bills on both gun violence and immigration in the coming months, but even some democrats like chuck schumer who support a wide-reaching bill are more optimistic that just something narrow l
wayne lapierre, the head of the nra, says the federal government is not enforcing its existing gun laws effectively and the answer is not more gun laws. >> none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there will be a back grounding check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. i think it's basic. >> reporter: but can the president push a far-reaching...
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the nra has always supported what works. we have 11,000 police instructors and we represent honest people all over this country. there are 25,000 violent crimes per week in this country. the innocent are being preyed upon. the statistics are numbing and 911 calls are horrible. victims all over the country want to be able to protect themselves. this whole debate almost puts it into two different categories. if you are in the elite, you get body cards, high-cap mags protecting this capital, the titans of industry dead body guards. -- debt the bodyguards, whoever they want. anyway. they get what they want and in the middle is the hard work of law abiding taxpaying american that we will make the least capable of defending themselves. we will say you can have a bold action rival but you cannot have an ar-15. you can have a six-shot revolvers but you cannot have a semi automatic handgun. you can have four or five or six rounds in your magazine but if three intruders break down your door, you cannot have 15 rounds because somebody
the nra has always supported what works. we have 11,000 police instructors and we represent honest people all over this country. there are 25,000 violent crimes per week in this country. the innocent are being preyed upon. the statistics are numbing and 911 calls are horrible. victims all over the country want to be able to protect themselves. this whole debate almost puts it into two different categories. if you are in the elite, you get body cards, high-cap mags protecting this capital, the...
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so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would agree that a universal background check certainly would make it more difficult for people who are trying to get weapons, keep them out of their hands. in fact from 1994 to 2009, nearly two million prohibited purchases were stopped. so we know this is going to work. obviously increasing penalties for those who try to straw purchase for someone else, i really think this will ve a tremendous impact. >> so wayne la pierre of the nra doesn't agree with you. at the hearing yesterday he said that criminals will never submit to these back groundiground che. let's listen to what he said. >> when it comes to back
so did nra head juan wayne la p and also the chief of baltimore county, the chairman of the national law enforcement partnership to prevent gun violence. he joins us right now. chief, you are really on the front lines of this gun debate so i want to ask you, if you could get one thing, change one thing when it comes to guns and gun violence, what's the one measure you would choose? >> well, it's definitely going to be a universal background check. i think most in law enforcement would...
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meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne lapierre, was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hands. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hands. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer? >> security in schools, armed guards at their schools. that's their answer. the famous quote. the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. that is their stance. more guns, arm everybody. >> what about all the loopholes? gun show loophole? there has to be an answer from the nra about that. >> even with all of the debate going on right now. it seems the assault weapons ban that we had from '94 to 2004, it still doesn't appear that that is going to go through. a lot of opposition. opposition to that. we are a gun loving country end of the day. one issue they get around and make head way on the background issue, the loopholes you just mentioned, th
meanwhile, the head of the nra, waip la pie wayne lapierre, was there as well. he said criminals would not be impacted by them because they do not undergo background checks. after the hearing, kelly and lapierre shook hands. >> strong disagreements. good to see they did shake hands. we disagree. we did so cordially and respectfully. >> what is the answer? what is the nra putting forth as the answer? >> security in schools, armed guards at their schools. that's their answer....
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the nra says it is no longer on board with that because it just won't work. >> you are never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: republicans and even some rural state democrats agree. that is a big challenge for president obama. rob, sunny, become to you. >> all right, thank you, karen. the world's biggest retailer made a decision about ammunition sales. wal-mart customers may buy only three boxes of ammo a day. because of limited supplies these days. with demand up for bullets. wal-mart says it is striking a balance between serving hunters and sportmen and selling firearms responsibly. >>> in newtown, an emotional hearing on gun control wrapped up. among the witnesses, parents who lost their kids in the massacre. one mother called on lawmakers. a few newtown residents spoke out against more restrictions on gun rights. >> if you think about it those parent are still grieving. they're the face, many of them have become the face of this, this gun control issue. i mean, it is what six weeks ago? that they lost their babies? talking about babies.
the nra says it is no longer on board with that because it just won't work. >> you are never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> reporter: republicans and even some rural state democrats agree. that is a big challenge for president obama. rob, sunny, become to you. >> all right, thank you, karen. the world's biggest retailer made a decision about ammunition sales. wal-mart customers may buy only three boxes of ammo a day. because of limited...
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tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> as it turns out, he was for background checks at gun shows before he was against them. and said so in 1999. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> when he was reminded of that line -- >> now, you do not support background checks for all firearms. >> i think the check system the way it's working now is a failure. >> lapierre's argument -- >> the problem with gun laws is criminals don't cooperate with them. >> but between 1994 an
tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a failure the way it's...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that they -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that they -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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we have 80,000 police families in the nra. and we care about police safety. we want what works. >> i'm trying to be fair to everybody here. certainly, you have more chances to speak. >> that is the point. the criminals will not go to purchase the guns because there'll be a background check. it will stop them from original purchase. you missed that point completely. it is basic. [applause] >> there will be order. [gavel] there will be order in the committee room. >> i'm going to give you a chance. but let me say at the outset, captain kelly, thank you. thank you for bringing that wonderful, brave wife of yours today to remind us what victims suffer from buy and -- from gun violence. what a heroic figure she is and what a pillar you are to stand by her during her rehabilitation. we are so proud of her and of view. and i say with some regret, there should have been a hearing just like this right after your wife, one of our own, a member of congress was shot point-blank in the face at a town meeting in tucson, arizona. i am sorry it has taken two years to convene
we have 80,000 police families in the nra. and we care about police safety. we want what works. >> i'm trying to be fair to everybody here. certainly, you have more chances to speak. >> that is the point. the criminals will not go to purchase the guns because there'll be a background check. it will stop them from original purchase. you missed that point completely. it is basic. [applause] >> there will be order. [gavel] there will be order in the committee room. >> i'm...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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we heard from the nra chief. we making progress? >> when it comes to guns in the control of guns to absolutely not. what we have really lost control of are the gangs. i did the story of a chicago this morning. i talked about the not -- a mother who has lost four children to gun violence in one family. a daughter and three sons, the latest just recently, and the gangs are what are out of control. chicago police have no control over them. the sister-in-law's angeles. not only true in the major urban centers, get cain violence is taking over the suburbs and even rural areas in america. we do virtually nothing about it. here in new york there is a major gang squad unit that works very hard all the time. i think that there are hundreds involved in it, and even they have trouble, if you remember this past summer, they cordoned off a blocked because the gangs, they knew the gangs are going to be fighting in the streets and the cubs cordoned it off and would not let people know wind that live there. lori: gang violence, video games. so many
we heard from the nra chief. we making progress? >> when it comes to guns in the control of guns to absolutely not. what we have really lost control of are the gangs. i did the story of a chicago this morning. i talked about the not -- a mother who has lost four children to gun violence in one family. a daughter and three sons, the latest just recently, and the gangs are what are out of control. chicago police have no control over them. the sister-in-law's angeles. not only true in the...
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conservative republicans are backing the nra. >> and i fail to see how passing additional laws that the department of justice will not enforce is going to make america any safer. >> it's clear, common ground on gun control may be hard to find. >> since the newtown shooting, lawmakers have introduced no less than eight gun control bills. right now the best chance for legislation appears to be in the areas of background checks and mental health care. >> thank you, and this is a list now you do not want to be on t there's hundreds of people in santa clare a county alone that own guns illegally and deputies are now cracking down. we are in the sheriff's office. tell us about the list? >> well, raj, these are people who purchased a gun legally, then did something to disqualify themselves from owning a gun by committing a felony perhaps. the sheriff's office said in this county alone, there are 529 people who fit that description, and combined they own more than 1200 guns. the sheriff said that thes of will look at each case individually to see how the deputies will go about getting the guns
conservative republicans are backing the nra. >> and i fail to see how passing additional laws that the department of justice will not enforce is going to make america any safer. >> it's clear, common ground on gun control may be hard to find. >> since the newtown shooting, lawmakers have introduced no less than eight gun control bills. right now the best chance for legislation appears to be in the areas of background checks and mental health care. >> thank you, and this...
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and i would urge the nra, mr. lapierre, and other gun advocacy groups to work with us on this proposal. the nra supported of our 2007 legislation that improved the background check system. i hoping they will try to do that again. it is a simple, straightforward solution, one the american people support. a recent survey by the new england journal of medicine found 90% of republicans, 74% of nra members support requiring background checks for all gun sales. i understand that because we have not introduced it i cannot ask the witness is about it. but i can tell you what it will not do. it will not create a gun registry. that is already illegal and is repeatedly illegal in our law. and it will not allow you to bar your relatives hunting rifle or share a gun at a gun range. it will include a reasonable exceptions to background checks for bonafide sales and transfers. checks and sales are a tactic. do you agree with the logic that we should prosecute people who illegally tried to buy guns? but even without that, the law
and i would urge the nra, mr. lapierre, and other gun advocacy groups to work with us on this proposal. the nra supported of our 2007 legislation that improved the background check system. i hoping they will try to do that again. it is a simple, straightforward solution, one the american people support. a recent survey by the new england journal of medicine found 90% of republicans, 74% of nra members support requiring background checks for all gun sales. i understand that because we have not...
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even thought about joining the nra. after newtown they started a political action committee to fight for tougher gun restrictions. they are calling for universal background checks covering gun shows and private dealers and a ban on magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition which kelly says might have saved the youngest victim of the shooting that almost killed his wife. the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a-year-old girl named christina taylor green when he tried to reload one 33 round magazine with another 33 round magazine and he dropped it it and a woman named patricia mayse grabbed it and it gave bystander time to tackle him. i contend if that same thing happened when he was trying to reload one ten round magazine with another 10 round magazine, meaning did he not have access to a high capacity magazine and the same thing happened, christina taylor green would be alive today. i certainly am willing to give up my right to own a high capacity magazine to bring that young woman ba
even thought about joining the nra. after newtown they started a political action committee to fight for tougher gun restrictions. they are calling for universal background checks covering gun shows and private dealers and a ban on magazines with more than 10 rounds of ammunition which kelly says might have saved the youngest victim of the shooting that almost killed his wife. the first bullet went into gabby's head. bullet number 13 went into a-year-old girl named christina taylor green when...
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. >> pelley: we'll hear from gabrielle giffords and the nra. nancy cordes reports from capitol hill. michelle miller has one mother's story from newtown. a massive storm system is moving across the country tonight. what's coming next from meteorologist david bernard. the economy suddenly stops growing. anthony mason looks at the surprising new numbers and with the super bowl coming this weekend, jim axelrod in new orleans, where the city's chefs have served up an economic recovery. >> reporter: the population shrunk, and yet the number of the restaurants went up? >> yeah, it's a miracle, isn't it? captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. the senate judiciary committee had assembled for the first congressional gun control hearing since the sandy hook tragedy when the surprise witness appeared. former congresswoman gabrielle giffords of arizona was led by the hand by her husband, mark kelly. it was two years ago this month that giffords was shot through the head during a meeting in tuc
. >> pelley: we'll hear from gabrielle giffords and the nra. nancy cordes reports from capitol hill. michelle miller has one mother's story from newtown. a massive storm system is moving across the country tonight. what's coming next from meteorologist david bernard. the economy suddenly stops growing. anthony mason looks at the surprising new numbers and with the super bowl coming this weekend, jim axelrod in new orleans, where the city's chefs have served up an economic recovery....
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certainly something that will appeal to nra membership. >> bret: much more to talk about this. the president, by the way, heads to minneapolis on monday. to talk about gun control. that's it for the panel. stay tuned for the difference between cats and dogs. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the already great sentra apart and completely reimagined it with best-in-class combined mpg and more interior room than corolla and civic and a technology suite with bluetooth, navigation, and other handy stuff? yeah, that would be cool. introducing the all-new nissan sentra. it's our most innovative sentra ever. nissan. innovation that excites. now get a $169 per month lease on a new nissan sentra, plus $500 bonus cash. ♪ stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replacement. if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask one of our insurance experts about it tod
certainly something that will appeal to nra membership. >> bret: much more to talk about this. the president, by the way, heads to minneapolis on monday. to talk about gun control. that's it for the panel. stay tuned for the difference between cats and dogs. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the already great sentra apart and completely reimagined it with best-in-class combined mpg and more interior room than corolla and civic and a technology suite with bluetooth,...
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the nra has always supported what works. we have 11,000 police instructors and we represent honest people all over this country. there are 25,000 violent crimes per week in this country. the innocent are being preyed upon. the statistics are numbing and 911 calls are horrible. victims all over the country want to be able to protect themselves. this whole debate almost puts it into two different categories. if you are in the elite, you get body cards, high-cap mags protecting this capital, the titans of industry dead body guards. criminal do not -- obey the law anyway. they get what they want and in the middle is the hard work of law abiding taxpaying american that we will make the least capable of defending themselves. we will say you can have a bold action rival but you cannot have an ar-15. you can have a six-shot revolvers but you cannot have a semi automatic handgun. you can have four or five or six rounds in your magazine but if three intruders break down your door, you cannot have 15 rounds because somebody thinks that
the nra has always supported what works. we have 11,000 police instructors and we represent honest people all over this country. there are 25,000 violent crimes per week in this country. the innocent are being preyed upon. the statistics are numbing and 911 calls are horrible. victims all over the country want to be able to protect themselves. this whole debate almost puts it into two different categories. if you are in the elite, you get body cards, high-cap mags protecting this capital, the...
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during the 2012 campaign, the nra targeted senate candidates with a low nra rating, like tim kaine and spent more than $4 million on senate campaigns last year, losing seven out of eight races where they spent over 100,000. the only winner, republican jeff flake of arizona who sits on the judiciary committee, the group who will craft any legislation on guns. but money isn't the only way to measure influence. >> i think that the nra as a single issue group is extremely potent political force out there. and even though their success rate was 50% with their outside spending in the last election, they have these members, millions of members that they can mobilize who are passionately motivated on this issue. >> reporter: 4 1/2 million members, according to the nra, who they can call on to lobby congress or vote in elections. >> the nra doesn't have the power but those who believe in the second amendment do. >> reporter: david keene points to the wisconsin recall as a prime example. that election kept pro gun rights republican governor scott walker in office. >> in that race, we made a six-
during the 2012 campaign, the nra targeted senate candidates with a low nra rating, like tim kaine and spent more than $4 million on senate campaigns last year, losing seven out of eight races where they spent over 100,000. the only winner, republican jeff flake of arizona who sits on the judiciary committee, the group who will craft any legislation on guns. but money isn't the only way to measure influence. >> i think that the nra as a single issue group is extremely potent political...
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to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more gun laws while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution for reducing crime. proposals that only serve to burden the law-abiding will fail again in the future. >> only a couple of times did wane la pierre get into it with a member of the committee. over the hours, it was a reasonable back and forth. it was not the fireworks that some people might have expected. while he opposes the universal background checks, he came with an argument to make saying over and over again, there not prosecutions of laws that are on the books, trying to put the pressure back on the justice departm
to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more...
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the nra is the reason why we don't have change in this country. there's a huge majority of approval background checks on assault weapons ban. the majority of americans are speaking. >> we had a fox news poll that says 69 percent of the american people support the gun -- the proposed salt weapons ban. there are the numbers on your side but that doesn't answer the question about whether -- you bill de blas yo private citizen, not public advocate, you can say whatever you want but once you blanket yourself in state authority it takes on a new meaning. it gives you more power and gives you this special power to cause people to behave in a way that they might not otherwise want to behave. what if you had a poll significance targeting to obtain legal abortions. you are allowed to rent to them but they had apportions. really strongly encourage you from renting from a woman who had an abortion. >> there is no parallel. huge powerful industry backed by the single most powerful lobby. >> single most powerful is in the nra. it is funded by this industry acco
the nra is the reason why we don't have change in this country. there's a huge majority of approval background checks on assault weapons ban. the majority of americans are speaking. >> we had a fox news poll that says 69 percent of the american people support the gun -- the proposed salt weapons ban. there are the numbers on your side but that doesn't answer the question about whether -- you bill de blas yo private citizen, not public advocate, you can say whatever you want but once you...
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is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem. adam lanza's mother is a law-abiding gun owner, and she continued to buy guns for her son for christmas and birthdays knowing that he had mental challenges. i mean, law-abiding citizens are part of the problem if they permit access of guns to go to people who should not have them. let's listen to just a moment of mark kelly. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we wou
is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem....
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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...